Episode 5: Robin Sharma – On The Framework for a Better Life

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Episode 005 Robin Sharma – On The Framework for a Better Life

Leadership expert, world-renowned speaker and best-selling author, Robin Sharma joins the podcast to share the frameworks and influences that have shaped his core beliefs and development. Dr. Stephanie and Robin talk about the importance of having distinct and purposeful morning routines, as highlighted in Robin’s latest book, The 5 AM Club. They discuss the concept of the four interior empires, which include the mindset, heartset, healthset and soulset. These four pillars are at the center of uncovering our light, luminosity, strength, and wisdom. Finally, Robin expounds on more frameworks and theories from his books and provides suggestions on how parents can influence their children for the better.


01:02 – Introducing today’s guest, Robin Sharma

04:45 – Robin recalls the greatest influences on his life’s journey

08:26 – The importance of having a morning routine

12:11 – The Four Interior Empires

16:32 – The framework of your heartset

20:29 – Why kindness is a super power

27:41 – Pursuing joy

32:14 – The Genius Betrayal Syndrome

36:10 – The importance of building a great team

37:49 – Robin explains why cheap costs more

40:29 – The Twin Cycles of Elite Performance explained

43:32 – The best way for parents to influence their children

47:01 – Robin leaves the audience with a few challenges

47:57 – Robin makes a couple of announcements about his book

49:15 – Where listeners can follow Dr. Stephanie and subscribe to her newsletter


“One of my core things that I believe is no one will believe in you until you believe in you.” (07:03)

“Building soulset at five am while the rest of the world is asleep is about letting go of the noisy voice of ego, which is the voice of your insecurity and wounded self, and rebuilding the relationship with who you truly are – this light, this luminosity, this strength, this undefeatability, this wisdom.” (15:22)

“Your life, your income, your impact will never be any higher than your pain.” (16:55)

“The Spartan warriors used to say, ‘Sweat more in training and you’ll bleed less in war.’” (26:45)

“The reasonable man adapts himself to the world. The unreasonable one persists in adapting the world to himself. Therefore, all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” (28:33)

“A great life is nothing more than a series of well-lived days strung together.” (38:20)

“If you work longer, harder, more stressed, you are literally going to deplete, what I call in the 5 AM Club book, the five assets of genius: your mental focus, your physical energy, your personal talent, your daily willpower, and your time.” (41:08)


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The Monk Who Sold His Ferrari: A Fable About Fulfilling Your Dreams & Reaching Your Destiny

The Leader Who Had No Title: A Modern Fable on Real Success in Business and in Life

The 5 AM Club: Own Your Morning. Elevate Your Life.


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